Common Council, Regular Meeting

1. 0:55meeting October 23rd, 2025 is now. Please rise to the flag. Mariani >> here. >> Ma >> here >> Roberts >> here. >> Roar >> here. Volvo >> here. >> President. >> Okay. Um, can I get a motion and a section to dispense with the reading of the minutes of the September 16th, 22nd
2. 1:58and 29th meetings and place them on? >> No. No one. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I motion carries. Committee reports to the city website. Can I have an introduction and second >> Margaret and all those in favor? 65. >> Anyone? >> Uh we have five communications. A motion and a second to receive the communications and place them on file. Lola and Ka. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. >> Anyone oppose? Motion carries. Okay, we'll start with the um resolutions from last week. Um first resolution is appointing
3. 3:03Commissioner Pet. That's polluting >> hi >> M. >> Hi >> Morris. >> Hi >> Hagen. Roberts. >> Hi >> Ro. >> Hi >> Ron. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. careful. >> The next resolution classifies the ADA improvement project as a secret type two call. >> Hi Moranchi. >> Hi >> M. Hi Morris. One Robert.
4. 4:08Hi Hi >> Lola. >> Hi President. >> Hi. >> Third resolution is a public board budget amendment. Oh go please. >> Council member Felton. >> Hi Moranti. >> Hi Mison. >> Hi Morris. Hi >> Roberts. >> Hi >> Rooney. >> Hi >> Sar. >> Hi >> Volo. >> Hi >> President Dro. >> Hi >> here. >> The next resolution was the youth department budget transfer transfer for light. Council member Belson. >> Hi. >> Easy. >> Hi.
5. 5:11>> M. Hi >> Morris. >> Hi >> Ernh. Hagen >> Roberts. >> Hi >> Ro. >> Hi >> Sarah. >> Hi. >> Hi >> President. All right. >> Council member Moranti. >> Hi. Hi. >> Moren Roberts. Hi Ronnie. Hi Sar. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> President G. >> Hi. >> Just a reminder, if you know these were introduced and discussed last week. If a council money would like further discussion, please say so. That
6. 6:14resolution issues negative declaration for the 2025 comprehensive plan. [Music] Hi >> Morris. >> Hi >> Roberts. >> Hi >> Ronnie. >> Hi >> Sar. >> Hi >> Bolo. >> Hi >> President. I >> the next um resolution authorizes the Sarah property 698 credit. >> Hi >> Nan. >> Hi >> Morren. to
7. 7:18>> Robert. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> President DP. >> Hi. >> Next resolution is to adopt comprehensive plan. Call please. Council member Beli Marie, >> what happens now after read it? >> What happens? >> Does it go to state? Yeah. I mean, >> no, they become the document that the city uses for future planning. Okay. I think the mayor is intending on creating a task force for implementation. >> Okay. So, so kind of like the um housing housing plan. So, >> it's kind of a guideline now. >> Hi. >> Yeah. I just want to comment
8. 8:24on there's some things in this plan that are simply inactive. Um for example uh for example at one point in the section they talked about that methodology >> actually there is but you should have read that >> no you don't understand the methodology was not based >> are you the only speaker or you just going to keep >> you interrupted me >> well I'm the chair so I get to >> Oh I see. Okay. Yes. And you should be active and raise. Hi, thank you. Hi.
9. 9:27Hi. Hi Bola. >> Hi President. >> Hi. >> The next um resolution authorizes the discontinuum of Long Island. Council member Belton. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Morris. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Ronnie. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> President. >> The next resolution. Authorizes entry to provide vehicle mobilizers AT. >> Hi.
10. 10:37>> Hi. >> Hagen. >> Hi. >> Hi. Saro I President DP >> Iz. >> Hi. >> Hi Morris. Hi. Hi. Robert. Hi. Ronnie. >> Hi. Hi, Zolo. >> Hi, President. >> Hi. >> Here. The resolution calls on the New York State Bonds. Please
11. 11:42file 105. So, I want to thank um anyone who brought this resolution in front of me. Anyway, it allowed me to educate myself on um one trying to get a hold of your representative. Uh but exactly what what it means and what what options there is. And um you know what one I want to thank assembly member Barrett for getting back to me and giving me information and and finally the Tom Holler giving me information and uh you know there is some definitely some seriously issues that are going on but from my understanding is that unfortunately you know
12. 12:46they didn't know much about this resolution until I spoke about it obviously unless they were just being koi um but it brought it to their attention brought to my attention. And I think now it allows other people to look into what exactly is going on with the bonds, not just Israel bonds, but other bonds and and how important it is to pay attention. And um and uh you know, every time that we have these things in front of us, it allows us to take a a better look because we see things on TV. We get desensitized. We watch movies. We get desensitized to what really is going on. And uh even if this is only a statement that might not go anywhere, at least it's people standing up for something and educating those who need to be educated.
13. 13:51Um so I want to thank um everyone who brought this to least to my attention to look into it and to wake up to what is around and what exactly going on on the state level and I will be paying attention. Um at night >> Morris. >> Hi >> Roberts. >> Hi Roie. >> Yeah. I also want to thank the group that brought this forward, especially um uh Columbia County for Palestine and uh Chris Bishop and Tamara as well as Ka who uh you know and all the the residents and supporters of this resolution. It is wonderful to see a grassroots campaign, you know, culminate into a um a resolution that really speaks to what's going on and uh to
14. 14:55ensure that our money is not being invested into a genocidal um you know regime. So thanks again for all those who work to uh put this in front of us. And uh I [Music] >> sorry man [Music] President >> I car [Music] resolution um designates our fair housing officer I have a question about this I raised it last D you might answer this so I went back and I was looking at uh the charter the code. And so there's a reference in the charter that no person shall at the same time hold more than one of the offices created or authorized by this charter excepting the holding of the
15. 15:57office of commissioner of deeds or superintendent of cemeteries shall not sw by any person holding any other office here under. And then there is language defining the fair housing office established by city of Hudson etc. which is what this what this position is uh under the supervision with the mayor. So I guess my confusion is um is participation in the planning board an office or not? I think that's really the question because if if being on the planning board is holding an office established by the charter code then seems that the same person those two boxes. So I guess my question is is being on the chart planning board holding out but I don't know I don't know the answer. I think as the way the charter speaks no right but I think the intent because it's not the it's not identified
16. 17:02as a commissioner even though the bare housing does get a a sip and I think if it was identified in the charter as one of those positions then yes so I think either do we feel we need to add it to the charter as the other positions are um you know to make it you know uh consistent um you know with the other positions that are labeled there commissioners all the other ones are are there so I think that when this was put into play for the city there wasn't a step a next step to put it at in into the charter as one of those positions so I think as it reads now it it's not a conflict or you And but I think the the intent of the charter language positions like that are are put into um you know have one or the other not both right either you are appointed or but not both those positions um you know or board or you know so I think that's a
17. 18:07conversation we probably should have that if we should add that on to the charter. So, so I guess I guess u being say commissioner abuse and also fair housing like that would potentially be a right because those are clearly hypothesis >> but I think the question I'm asking is it's not clear that hang I had started this conversation >> I had started this Dominic works with fair housing officer so the the reason I'm I'm thinking about it is that just involuntary forward um is not necessarily building. So that's kind of what I think Christopher, do you have thoughts on that? >> Um I haven't looked at the various charter provisions on this specific issue. Um I was pulling them up as you were talking so I could take a look. I know that it says that not more than one-third of the members of the planning board can hold another public office in the city of Hudson, but I would have to
18. 19:09look at this um a little bit closer to be able to tell you whether there was a a real issue here or not, >> which I'm happy to do. I just I can't do it. I don't have enough information to do that right now. >> Thank you. >> No, I just wanted to raise something that maybe in the future go ahead to clarify you don't Council member, >> I'm going to abstain because our council doesn't have enough information to tell us what to do >> to table it. >> I'm not an authority, but I I would I would motion to table it because but I'm not in authority then Margaret, but I think maybe with more information, maybe we should table it. If you make that motion, I'll person Let's see. This is a
19. 20:35budget transfer in the store budget. I have an introduction of second place. Margaret questions. Roll council member. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi Robert. >> Hi. Hi >> next is a budget transfer resolution for the votes act contribution introduction second to questions comments Hi Escalia.
20. 21:45>> Hi >> M. >> Hi Morris. >> Hagen. >> Hi >> Roberts. >> Hi >> Rooney. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> President. Next resolution some GPW transfers. Um instruction please. >> Hi Morris. Hi >> I >> Ro.
21. 22:48>> Hi >> Barark. >> Hi >> Bolo. >> Hi >> President. >> Hi >> Harry. >> Oh wait a second. Hold on. Is this is number 16, right? >> Yeah. 16 at the bottom says sewer $30,000. But then the then the rest of the math doesn't add up. So if you're taking 30,000 firm sewage treatment and giving 5,000 to sewage administration and 20,000 sanitary seers, do you have any time here? Um, I I do not, but what I would recommend is that the council make a motion to modify the initial number down to 25 to match what Rob requested. And if he needs the other five somewhere else, he can deal with it next month. We take 30.
22. 24:01[Music] >> Okay. Next resolution is authorizing even for 212. >> Oh yeah, sorry. 17 >> 17. [Music] So I can How do you explain this to us? >> Oh, these are this is something new. Sewer bag. >> Oh, yeah. Let's say introduction a second. First introduction second. This is a new requirement for testing. >> I'm happy to explain if you'd like. I would like to hear it. >> Okay. So, basically what happened was there were um a couple of >> I'm sorry. Oh, leave it up. >> I was just asking Logan to leave it on
23. 25:03the screen. >> Okay. Appreciate that. Um so, basically, we created a capital fund and we also issued a bond uh to do two different things. One was to do that new uh sewer main and connection on the 400 block of Union Street and also insulation of bar screens of the sewer plant. Uh those numbers were both based on estimates at the time obviously. Um the cost for both projects did come in ahead of budget. So what Rob is proposing here is that um okay so let me take a step back because I think this is where Tom was going. Um there is there is a new revenue stream in the sewer fund which is the sale of sewer bank credits and I can try and explain that in more detail if you want to know what that is but basically it's um when a developer wants to build something they basically buy uh credits to use against their building into the sewer system.
24. 26:05um because there was a significant backlog of those apparently according to Rob um the amount of revenue that we had estimated for 2025 for that particular revenue source was only $25,000. So what he is proposing is we increase it by $125,000 which will give us the revenue to offset the additional expenses that were incurred for those two capital programs. So that's why you're seeing the revenue going up and and we're already at we're already at that number I think. So I don't think it's unreasonable. And um and the reason why you're seeing the offset in the the sewer fund is a transfer to capital projects because that way the general I'm sorry the G fund the sewer fund balances and then that money will be in fact moved to the appropriate capital fund so the cash is there for them to be able to complete the project. Thank you for Thank you, Helen. We have a hand. >> You're welcome. >> Okay.
25. 27:11>> My hand is raised in anticipation of of later so I don't forget to do it and so I don't have to rush in a hurry when you're about raising my hand. >> You want to tell me? >> I'm leaving my hand up for later for new business. For what? >> New business. >> Okay. Thank you. Where are we? Okay. >> Council member. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Robert. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. President CP. >> The next author is an easement for two number 2 to 12 Hudson Avenue. I need an introduction and a second
26. 28:21place and questions. >> Um I tried to look into like I looked at what the easement is and so forth. >> Um >> there doesn't appear to be any issue with this. Are you aware of the developer having any issue with this ement? >> Not at all. >> Yeah. So I I didn't see any have been following the development. >> I don't think there's any issue. >> Okay. This this uh project has been delayed enough. >> Yes, it has. >> Council member >> Hi Morris. >> Hi. >> Hi >> Robert. >> Hi >> Ronnie. >> Hi >> Sar. >> Hi Bola, >> presentation. >> Hi, >> Car. >> And the next resolution is awesome
27. 29:31for Julian Moranti. Hi >> M. >> Hi >> Morris. >> Hi. >> Hi >> Robert. >> Hi >> Ro. >> Hi >> Sar. >> Hi >> just like to say thank you to Andrew Bitsy who's been working with Rob Curry from DPW on this. We have a few thousand dollars left in the CC budget, but this additional funds will allow us to plant more trees um more street trees throughout the city uh this fall. Um, we have a waiting list now of true trees to plant because the program has proven to be very popular. Hi.
28. 30:39>> Hi. >> Hi. >> Last resolution authorizes the certified officer for the CDBG grant. >> This was actually brought out last week, but um we didn't have an introduction second involved. Do we still need an introduction? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Can I have an introduction a second, please? You raise your hand that no ear and >> thank you. [Music] >> What's wrong with you? >> Council member B. I >> hi >> m
29. 31:44>> hi >> Robert. >> Hi >> star. >> Hi >> hi >> car. Okay. Bill introduction a second before we vote on >> question. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> The $20,000 >> is something to do. >> All right. The what? >> The fireman. >> The pension. >> Yes. >> Anything else? >> Council member Belton.
30. 32:52>> Hi. That's >> hi >> hi. >> Hi >> hi >> Robert. Hi >> Ronnie. >> Hi >> Sar. >> Hi >> Bola. >> Hi >> President DP. >> Hi >> Carrie. >> Okay. Um I have an introduction and a second to extend for proposed local law G to extend the lodging. Go on and now I have a motion and a second to lay the proposed local council members desks. Go on and Jennifer. Okay. Uh Crystal, what's holding up the was D and F? Do we have >> I don't know that anything's holding them up. I have to go back and check to see if we've done the public hearings, but if we have, then they should be ready to vote on.
31. 33:57>> But maybe we haven't had the hearing on either. >> I'm sorry. I missed the first part of it. I I missed the first part of what you asked, Tom, and so I'm not sure it was about this law or the other law, but I am raising my hand to ask what happened to the uh installment agreement law, which was supposed to be passed tonight. >> That's what I was uh wondering about. I guess we haven't had the hearing yet. We have to have a hearing. >> Yes. And that would be a may that would be the uh a hearing for the mayor. >> Ah, mayor. And and what about the idling law? >> Same with the idling or is that for us? >> May. No, the idling law would be the mayor would be a mayor hearing too. >> Okay. >> So, this I just want to be clear. So, this is going to postpone that for at least another month. And I'm talking about the installment agreement one because we had communications planned to go out immediately after this meeting to
32. 35:00offer the people who were on the list the alternative. So, we cannot do that. I just want to make sure I'm clear. Is that correct? >> Yeah, the the law has not been adopted yet. So, we need a a mayor's hearing on it and then we the council can vote on it. >> Okay. Now, um well, before I get to you, Ron, council member, there is >> Okay, Mr. Keni. Oh, hold on a second. I do have to you sent us this. I have to explain to you that we can't really we as a council can't really do much about it. I think the best first of all two things. One is uh it has to be enforced and I don't and that means whoever got this would have to insist that the mayor tell the police to enforce it. That may >> Oh, right. Sorry. So, Lloyd has asked to
33. 36:05have a special um exemption from uh the code chapter 289 that doesn't basically doesn't allow you to to use your car as a place to sleep >> overnight. >> Overnight. specifically unless it's in a designated trailer. You can >> I think it's called a camp house. >> A coach house designated as a campground, >> right? None of the things we actually have in the city, right? Um so um you're asking for us to give you an exemption. We can't do that. Of course, the I may be able to do it, but it's really a matter of enforcement. I'm told somebody has been asking the police to enforce this against you. >> I believe I believe something's happening of that regard. I haven't really investigated maybe. >> Okay. No, no, but has the police. >> Uh yeah, >> I've been informed of the law. >> Okay. Let's um I'll bring this to the
34. 37:08mayor's attention and see what can be done. I can't we can't I mean we can't just change the code to exempt you. >> Well, it's not me. It's so I'm actually wording it for any mayor. >> Well, actually, I think it's a legitimate issue. Mayor or no mayor. I mean, more and more people are ending up. >> Yeah. You know, having to live in Vance and we should be recognizing that. >> I agree with this. This mayor is the housing mayor. So for housing so and we do have housing issues that kind of like cause you know um unusual solutions maybe if this this actually isn't such an unusual solution. It's just maybe the intolerance of you know various living situations might be the >> I want to be on city council writing campaign.
35. 38:11>> So this is only enforceable in public right not private right. So if you somebody you parking in somebody's driveway read the law. It's actually the law. >> Excuse me. Who are you? >> This is Kalista. >> All right. I'm Kalista. >> I live on Warren Street. >> Okay. >> I want to run for city council. >> I know the mayor. >> I do. >> Housing is like Yeah, I really do. >> Okay. I wish for you like so I'm restaurant worker and I've been a restaurant worker here for several years. >> I knew food. I knew lunch plates. >> Yeah. Leitis >> very successful. >> But like there's nowhere for anybody to live to work here. >> Does that make sense? >> That totally makes sense. We're very rare. Like and like that is my main issue is like nobody can afford to live here to work at the places that we love in this and I love this town. It's
36. 39:17beautiful. >> Let's make it beautiful but we need affordable housing. >> So we have now >> I'm gonna bring this to the mayor's fence to see what he can do. In the meantime, I think the legal committee can look into somehow revising this >> in the spirit of what Gary's talking about. >> Yeah. >> Well, I app I appreciate that. >> Thank you. >> But I can't, you know, force the legal permitt. >> I understand. >> Thank you. Um Ron, we've been waiting. >> Yes. Thanks. I would like to ask if you're in a position to give an update on the progress of the responses to the DUN warehouse RFP. >> No, because it was extended. The um the due date was extended. So, they're not in yet. >> So, what is >> that's a good question. I don't Let's see. Is anybody online? No. No. I think they were given an extra. What was the
37. 40:21original uh date? You know, >> it was not to be decided before October 31st, as far as I know. >> I don't have a date to do. >> I think they were due on the 24th originally, maybe extended. Is that Friday? They're usually on Friday, >> but they have been extended, so there's nothing to report. >> Well, I have a further question if I may. Uh, There was the last time around with the Dun warehouse there was a committee involved in vetting the responses so it's uh meetings were not open to the public. Do you know who is you know who who is vetting the responses this time around? >> I do not. >> Is there a uh do you know why the point person is now the housing justice director and not the commissioner of public works as it was the last time around?
38. 41:24because uh a good question. She was the RFP, >> but but do you know who made the decision? Did do you made do you know who made the decor who decided that it would be the housing justice director and not the commissioner of public works? probably because the current commission of public works I don't think has the same interest. Is is the city, if you if you know, still committed to leasing the property and adaptive reuse as it was the first time around? as I recall from the RFP that would be preferred but it's it doesn't seem to be what many one of the reasons the first the group that won the first round the first time they had agreed to a lease but agreeing to a lease made very hard for them to find financing so it may end up having to be a sale that a sale is still an option either
39. 42:28either method is still an option >> well at the as I said at the last meeting I just last month. I think that this whole vetting process and the decision process should be carried out according to the open meetings law with all meetings open public. >> Thank you very much. >> Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Motion to >> second. All those in favor >> I do think he's ugly.

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