Common Council, Regular Meeting

1. 0:53the regular one Is that okay? >> Yeah, I have to mute Gary because there's some sort of feedback thing happening. >> Okay. >> Uh the regular meeting of January 20th is now in session. Please rise for five minutes. follow the road. >> President here one.
2. 1:59Council member Kadan >> here. >> Star >> here. >> Foster >> Robert >> here. >> Bel >> here. >> Cousin >> here. >> Okay. Um, Sherry >> here. >> I'm here. I'm just marking. I'll be right in. >> Um, can we have a forum present? >> Forum present. Y. >> Can we have motions to dispense the reading of the needs for December 16, 20 December 22nd? No. Uh, and place them on fire. motions and section.
3. 3:03Any opposed? Okay. Uh committee department reports. Uh we have received a number of reports from the departments. Now ordinarily we would receive those reports for the informal meeting. Uh this month because of the organizational meeting we did not have that that uh submission. So we have received a number of uh reports. Once we've accepted them, I'll come back to that uh to explain how we're going to proceed. So may I have a motion and second to place uh the including reports and departmental reports on fire. Shan first second Henry. >> Um all in favor? >> Any opposed? So going forward with how the reports will work is that the departments will continue to submit their reports to the full council and they will be placed on file. They will do so at the usual time frame which is the informal meeting. Once we have our five committees established, those committees will
4. 4:06review those reports, meet with the departments and discuss any other issues or work that needs to be done within committee for those particular department groups. Uh but we won't have presentations at PS or from the departments. Um that will come out of the committee work. >> Excuse me, Margaret. >> Yes. Um there's something up with the log of the data and all the files in um the city website. We're still in 2025. >> Are you sure you're not catch? Because I had a similar question from Dominic. >> Um well, I went back and saw last year's and goes from December 22nd, 2025 to January 12, 2025 to January 28. >> Everything was there looking at >> there. I'm just saying that the date >> years ahead >> and meeting in January 201 >> um that's the report uh communications
5. 5:10um we have received communications I believe all of the communications related to the casino uh those communications have been posted on the city website um so may I have a motion to receive uh the communications and place them on file. And the second motion from Jenny's >> second. Um with regard to communications, this is just a structural issue. Um in the past when we pass communications, they might have things coming in before the informal and then all night between the informal and the formal. So I think and it's very difficult for members of the public to know where to look for specific communication. So the structure we are setting up is that if there is a topic that's in the informal that's going to be armed with the formal and we are receiving communications for that there will be a subfolder under the formal meeting and communications will be placed in that folder but they'll only be placed in one place so people
6. 6:12don't have to keep going back and forth. We're also going to organize them by topic. So in this case, we have a subfolder sloop club for the communications and all those communications are under there. If there another topic, then that would be a subfolder for communications relating to that topic and that way people can go to just one location to look to find communications from the one that we live here. Okay, any questions? Okay. Um so this evening uh primarily what we have are um some routine resolutions but also um mainly moving it's moving up funds fund transfers in order to pay bills from the end of 2025 and then we also have the bills to pay this evening but much of our our resolutions here this evening relate to bill pay. So our first one is appointing commissioners up deeds. Can you pull up your resolutions Logan as we go? Uh, may I have an introduction and second for uh, commissioners of
7. 7:14Dr. Dong? Introduction second and second. Um, we need roll call vote. President Moore here. Yes. Sorry. Council member Hadad. Uh >> here I started a trend. >> Austin >> Robertson >> I >> say I good. Uh our next is we have uh a two uh resolutions related to the defense psy youth. The first is approving the memorandum of understanding with defense and youth and attached to that
8. 8:17resolution is a copy of the memorandum. Do I have an introduction and second? >> I'm sorry I'm sorry I skipped the fire department. Uh authorizing fire department transfers from twin for fiscal year 2025. Introduction. Oh, we have Lola has introduced Dwan second. >> Roll call. >> President Morris. >> Yes. >> Council member Hadad. >> Hi. >> Rooney. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Foster. >> Hi. >> Roberts. >> Hi B. >> Hi. Hi. Cousin. I >> Morancey. >> Hi. >> Uh so the next two are the two relating to friends of Hudson Youth. The first is the memorandum of understanding and attached to that there's a resolution attached to the actual memorandum. Uh no changes from prior year. So do I have an
9. 9:20introduction and second? Uh Claire has introduced Jenning has second and we need that. This is for number three the memorandum of understanding. Yes. roll. >> President Morris, >> yes. >> Council member Hadad, >> yes. >> Rooney, >> hi. >> Sarra, >> hi. >> Foster, >> yes. >> Roberts, >> hi >> Belton. >> Hi. >> Lola. >> Hi. >> Cousin. >> Hi. >> Moranti. >> Hi. Uh, next is authorizing the youth department to accept donation from friends of Hudson youth. Uh, introduction and Jenny and Claire introduce Jenny second. Uh, roll call. >> President Morris. >> Yes. >> Council member Hadad. >> Hi. >> Rooney. >> Hi. >> Sarah. >> Hi. >> Foster. >> Yes. >> Roberts.
10. 10:20>> Hi. >> Belin. Hi >> Vola. >> Hi >> cousin. >> Hi >> Mar. >> Hi >> Eric. >> Um our next is a authorizing a transfer for street tree planting for fiscal year 2025. Um this relates to again ensuring that we have sufficient funds to pay the 2025 bills which you you'll see when we come to bills. Do I have an introduction for transfer? We have follow introducing ad second and we have a roll call vote. >> President Morris. >> Yes. >> Council member Had. >> Hi. >> Ron. >> Hi >> Sarah. >> Hi >> Foster. >> Hi >> Roberts. >> Hi >> Felton. >> Hi >> Vol. Hi >> Pez. >> Hi Moranti. >> Hi Harry. So next is the fire department donations
11. 11:22party um accepting uh fire department donations. Do I have a introduction and second? Do one uh excuse and who second? Henry second. Welcome. >> President Morris. >> Yes. >> Council member Hadad. >> Yes. >> Rooney. >> Hi. >> Thar. >> Hi. Foster. >> Hi >> Roberts. >> Hi >> Belton. >> Hi >> Paula. >> Hi >> I >> Moranti. >> Hi >> Harris. >> Uh next is again 25 budget transfers for the common council and empower preservation. Um, do we have an introduction and second introduced? Second off second. >> Is there Am I doing my math wrong? Is not adding them. >> Excuse me. >> The Roman two lines don't >> Where is this?
12. 12:25>> This is >> Yeah, >> it doesn't. Yeah, >> line is 2744 and the the two two lines is adding up to 247. >> So we need to hold off on this one. I think Heather is not >> I think it's just some transposition error like 2744 should be 2477. Yes, >> I am actually Margaret >> and can we amend that to 2477? >> Um, I would ask if Lyric can can Lyric before the end of the meeting potentially confirm the amount that she needs because this is actually from numbers that she pulled together. I'm sure I made the typo, so that's not that's not on Lyric, but I'm assuming that the first two numbers are correct and then the total from is wrong. That is my belief. Okay. So, we we just put this one vote
13. 13:32on this just now, but you can back >> but that's a I mean that's the home total is 2744. >> Yeah, that adds up. >> That's the money they need. Okay. >> 2744. Um we'll come back to that. Okay. Thank you. Um, next we have um these are uh some transfers for Rob Perry. We have transfers for GPW, cemetery, water and sewer transfers. Um I reviewed all of these with Rob. They are all transfers within the within their own bucket. So sewer is within sewer etc. Uh so I do I have an introduction and second for those. We have Dan introducing him. Second Henry uh Robo. >> President Morris. >> Yes. >> Council member Hadam.
14. 14:33>> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> F. >> Hi >> Roberts. >> Hi >> Belton. >> Hi >> Cousin. >> Hi >> Mar. Okay. >> Uh, next is a uh resolution approving the honorary street naming of Wheeler Way. Um, do I have an introduction? Dominic, I think you were going to introduce. >> Yes. >> Dominic and, uh, Clara second. Um, so this is one of these things where, you know, we want to make sure that everything comes before the council that there is someone who can speak to it. And, uh, Dominic wanted to speak to the think resolution. So Dominic, do you want to uh explain this to us and speak to the resolution before we >> Yeah, the resolution says a lot of it. It's it's some historic of you know father and son uh only time that the father and son was in the mayor and also that they were in critical parts of our
15. 15:36time. One was in the depression. Uh Fred Wheeler and Sam actually moved us into this new building and both were very productive in our community. Um and I know I had uh Sam's son in school uh you know Lance Wheeler and so uh they're very um productive from what I remember and what my family remembers in in the community. So I think this is and I think they're only doing you know the even side which you know from fifth and sixth so >> yes it's a stretch mark >> right so but I think this is welld deserved and I think that and I Mr. Wheeler was last was going to come today but he had a conflict with the board meeting so um you know maybe he'll speak at another time but um uh I think this is a great honor for the family >> and al they would participate also with the fire department. Yes, absolutely. Yes, absolutely. >> Any other comments from the council on this uh donation? >> No.
16. 16:37>> I've seen Lance serving the community still and passing on his legacies. >> Anyone? President Pap want to comment. Okay. So, I think we can do a roll. >> Thank you, Tommy. >> President Morris. Yes. >> Council member. >> Hi. >> Ro. >> Hi. Hi >> Foster. >> Hi >> Roberts. >> Hi >> Belton. >> Hi >> Lola. >> Hi >> Cous. >> Hi >> Mari. >> Hi >> Harry. Okay. Um our next resolution is uh the IDA apparently has a community member. The current community members uh term ends in January. I think uh Mr. Spemano may be here. Correct. Yes. So, this resolution is authorizing uh the appointment, as you recall from a couple of years ago, we've done this before, because the council uh nominates and authorizes the appointment of a
17. 17:42community member to the IDA. Um so, would you like to say a few words? >> Um sure. I thought I wasn't prepared to speak, but the uh >> I'd be delighted to join the um I think Hudson's at a uh really interesting time in its history and it'll be uh fascinating to be a part of it and to give back. My family's from here so I know Hudson very well and you know I've spent probably 30 years in sustainability helping companies uh figure out how to develop grow in a more sustainable way. So I think I've got some experience is relevant and I live in Hudson. >> And you're from Hudson you said? Yeah, I grew up across the street from a bunch of Morantes. >> That must have been a rough neighborhood. >> It was very rough for your name. >> So, uh, yeah, if there's any questions, I'd love to >> Thank you very much. >> Thanks for being willing to serve. Sure. So, can we have an introduction and a second? We have Dwan and we have Dominic and the second. Can we have a roll call? President Morris.
18. 18:47>> Yes. Council member Hadad. >> Hi. >> Rooney. >> Hi. >> I look forward to serving with you, Mr. Spinado. We'll have to >> John. >> John's right. >> Hi, >> Foster. >> Roberts. >> Hi. >> Belin. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Cousins. >> Hi. >> Manson. >> Hi. here. Yeah. Our next resolution is um authorizing an agreement with Tabner Ryan and Kennery LLP legal firm uh for planning for services. And I will explain in a moment. Can I have an introduction and ASAP? Uh Henry introducing James in second. Um this is to uh authorize the mayor to enter into an agreement um with a uh new law firm to take on um article 7 activity. Um also uh article 78 litigation that we currently have going
19. 19:51on and then ongoing support of the planning. Um any questions? they're also going to be the attorney, not just for the lawsuits. >> They they will be doing it's the agreement um no the agreement is not in there. They will be doing um the support of the planning board attending planning board meetings advising planning board. Then they are also going to take on the uh current litigation that the city we have litigation ongoing that they will assume responsibility for. And then article 7s are relating to assessment issues. We've had different attorneys doing these different activities. And so this is an this uh company will take on all of those activities. >> Oh, I have a question mark. Um >> why not anything I know anything about? >> Is this the mayor? That's
20. 20:53>> this is yes this is uh the mayor it brought his 12th to approve his entering into this agreement. Um I am now privy to the discussions as to the appointment of planning board. >> Okay. >> One of the current article 78 >> sorry can you speak up? >> One of the current article 78s is >> no street. >> Yeah. And it's isn't that kind of a conflict while >> so currently uh the pre last year um the uh city determined that uh Miss Palo who was the attorney for the planning board would represent the city in that particular litigation because the planning board was one of the name parties and so this individual or this company taking on planning board will then also be taking on the lead in that litigation. That doesn't change at all from what I
21. 21:59>> Any other questions? >> Okay. Ready for roll. >> President Morris. >> Yes. Council >> member Hadron. Um I'm going to abstain because feel like I don't have any context. I mean the mayor is empowered to make this decision but >> so what based on our uh rules of order >> right >> um abstension requires that you specify what additional information it is that you need in order to make a decision. >> Sure. I that's that was the second part of my statement. uh context regarding why it was changed. >> Okay. >> Why has a question about point of order? If there's more than one council person that needs more information during a vote, can we make a motion to just table?
22. 23:02>> You can make a motion to table if you wish. >> Three people, right? >> Um but you'll have to have a majority in favor of tableling. I'd make a motion to table. >> Do I have a second? >> We have a second. Can we take a roll call on table? >> So, the motion is uh to table uh this. >> I'm sorry. What your information are you looking for? >> I mean, I understand the mayor can enter into agreement with the new law firm. I just wish there was some more plant provider whether in the resolution or someone was here to ask answer questions as to why has changed >> a little bit more information we need you know >> or even if it was a communication sent out ahead of time this is why we're changing >> this was the last >> so uh yes this was hand this is what
23. 24:05came today um we can take a vote to to table. I will not be voting to table this and um ordinarily we do not discuss personnel issues in open session. >> Sure. >> So, uh we do not have anyone present. There's not much point in going into executive session because there's no one here right now who can speak to the questions that you have. >> Yeah. Um, another question, but per your rule of order, like if we wanted to request the mayor give a presentation on this or something similar, that would be sufficient, right? >> Um, where the current motion on the table is to table this, that, that's all we're discussing. >> I'm just asking if that could be another step to get >> that is not on the table right now. What's on the table is voting to table great voting on this resolution. >> We voted. Is there a time limit for this or not? >> Yeah. Yes, there is. The reason this came today is uh to make sure that there is legal counsel available for the
24. 25:10planning board at their meeting in February. >> That is the reason why I was asked to put it on the editor. >> And their meeting in February is before our next meeting. >> Yes. Yes. >> Right. So, so they wouldn't be able to do basically any business >> without Yeah. In February's meeting, right? >> I'm not sure that's true. It's an advisor. They don't always need an advisor. Well, they we don't we don't always >> well well usually the uh attorney provides our resolutions and everything that are voted on right and during the planning board. I mean they could do business like that we are but no no movement in resolutions no past business can go forward without an attorney right >> correct >> I attorney >> the the planning board did not have an attorney for the >> excuse >> I believe that the planning board operated without an attorney for >> the last so meetings I have been to those all kind of attorney pro you talking about years ago
25. 26:13Yeah. Yeah. I'm just I'm not sure that it's absolute as Dominic said that if nothing could go forward. I'm not sure it's >> Oh, if they need a legal, you know, advice on before the meeting, then I think they do need it. >> So, can we have um we have an introduction and a second to table this? >> Yeah. >> So, can we take a >> Yeah. Uh, can this can anyone change the lawyer later on? >> I'm sorry. >> Can they change the lawyer later on? This goes through so that they have at least a lawyer present during their planning. >> I can't speak to much. >> They're probably a contract. So, I think so contract >> and it applies for both. It's not only >> for the land. Has has this council ever been um >> we have not >> we've heard about uh I that's an example of that in discussion and we're not going to have
26. 27:15that in open >> I'm not adding before the details I'm asking whether we've been >> we have we have received confidential syndication from our legal counsel they're very >> yes that's what I >> sorry say that again Margaret please >> excuse Okay. >> Say the last second. >> I said we have received uh written communication from privilege uh communication from our attorney relating to the article 78 clute. >> So can we have a vote please? >> Y and the vote is uh to table or not to table. If you do not wish to table it the vote is no. If you wish to table it the vote is yes. >> President Morris. No. >> Council member Had. >> No. >> No.
27. 28:20>> Boston. >> No. >> Roberts. >> No. >> Belton. >> Yes. Lola. >> Yes. >> Morant. >> No. >> No. >> So the motions are not carried. So therefore we are not uh going to take this and we are now going to take a vote on authorizing an agreement. Authorizing the mayor to enter into an agreement with Tabler Ryan and Senator. for that. I was at Ro. We said abstain. I was just got just move. Okay. Sorry. >> Hi. >> Foster. >> Yes. >> Roberts. >> Yes. Belton. >> I under this.
28. 29:22>> I'm sorry. >> I vote yes. Morant. >> Hi Terry. >> I do have a question though. Is this where we would ask to have would we could the mayor present to us about what the reason for the change was? >> We I can uh reach out to the mayor's office and uh get that information. >> That'd be helpful. Thank you. >> I I don't I'll get we will we will go into executive session and we can have a discussion at a future time so that you can understand that. >> That would be helpful. Okay. >> Um, next is uh list of bills. Before we go into that, I do want to make um an observation. Can I go back to this? >> Sorry. You want to go back to this
29. 30:24resolution? >> Oh, yes, >> it is correct. It's just transposed >> 27.4. Okay. Okay. So, we're going back to uh number seven, which was the budget transfer for historic preservation and common council. Uh did we have an introduction? >> Yep. And a second. >> Okay. So, we just need a roll call vote on this. >> And can I change this? >> Yes. >> So, it is now 2744. >> 247. >> 2477. >> Thank you, Ronnie, for catching that. President Morris. >> Yes. >> Council member Had. >> Hi. >> Rooney. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Foster. >> Hi. >> Roberts. >> Hi. >> Bel. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Present. >> Hi. >> Morante. >> Hi. >> Garrett. >> Hi. Um so before we go into looking at the bills um answer any questions on those before I make two observations. As you
30. 31:27know under I did amend the uh rule of order based upon the feedback to put back in that language around um the fact that we can have someone removed if they continue to be disrupted after a warning. I put that in. But there is a rule in rule number 12 basically says that anything that's not covered is covered by um the uh Robert's ro um I just want us all to remember that we speak after we are recognized. We don't speak over each other. One person speaks at a time. That's that's not specified but that is from standard practice. Um the other thing uh we should have our discussions again this evening very straightforward for the most part we should have our discussions before the vote ideally we would all vote simultaneously we can't do that but all discussion should really occur before the vote and then at the time of the vote it is simply a vote yeah >> unless you are um if you are refusing you would say so before the discussion
31. 32:31occurs and you would not take part in the discussion in the example that we just had uh Ronnie wanted to abstain. So therefore at that point he made a statement as to why he is abstaining. So other than that kind of commentary when we are voting we are voting and we're not debating any further at the time of the voting. >> Okay. >> Yep. Um during that time can some can like have go into executive session like timely etc. >> There are there are the rules for executive session are laid out in the rooms of order. >> There are only specific things that qualify for session. They're itemized in number what is it? So for example issues relating to litigation issues relating to it's number 10. Uh there's a series of uh circumstances in which executive session is >> the situation, >> right? It's very specific. You cannot go into executive session unless it meets
32. 33:34one of these s criteria. >> Um sometimes things are moving quickly with the motions and the seconds and just procedure for a pause to allow some comments or sometimes what's going so quick. Well, this evening is a little unusual in that we have very routine things here, transfers that we are making in order that we can pay the bills for 2025. Usually, um once we have had the motion and the second, we stop and ask for comments, but there's really not a whole lot to comment on in >> surprised us. Excuse me. >> This one surprised us because it did. >> Yes. Well, it came in a couple of hours ago tonight, right? Um, okay. So, we have the bills. Do we have questions on the bills? Let me Anyone got any questions on the bills? Yes. >> Sorry. >> It's our website. >> Okay. >> Any other questions?
33. 34:36>> Yeah. Gener. >> Yes, that is uh something that we actually probably need to talk about in the future. This is uh monies that we pay whenever we make any updates to our code. >> At the moment um there's a company that that verifies does the updates. They do hard copy pieces. They give it to the clerk's office. The clerk's office has to maintain the codebooks. And something going forward that we would like to talk about is moving this to a more electronic process where we might only have two physical code books in city hall. um and then perhaps reduce some of the cost and labor involved in doing this. But that that's anytime we make any change to the code, it has to go through code verification. Are there any other questions on any of those? Okay. Um I do want to point out one which I did discuss I had questions about that I discussed with uh Michelle Tulo earlier today and that is the Azabar technologies.
34. 35:40Um that is those of you who are on the council prior uh will recall that um we have a contract with a company that does the collection of the taxes for short-term rentals and the registration and they also provide Michelle with a monthly report on uh current registered uh short-term rentals and she goes through and then identifies any that are um advertising but are not registered. Um I think at some point in the future the New York State um database which New York State passed a law about two years ago and they were developing a database. So I think I want to follow up with Michelle on the specifics of getting access to that. Um however a portion of this bill relates to the software that they use to register and to collect the taxes. Um so about half of it actually is part of that process and that is
35. 36:45actually quite cost effective compared to other companies. Um it's quarterly bill. Um it's currently around 1,400 every quarter. So that's actually um a reasonable thing. So even if we switch to using the New York State database and there are potentially some challenges to that uh we will still need to have a company to do the registration and collection of texts. So that I just wanted to mention that because we had talked about that about a year and a half ago um when when Michelle was going to that company. Uh if there are no other questions on the bills. No. Okay. Um, so let's see. Did we did we get an introduction? Yep. So we need an introduction and a second on pay. Introduction introduction. Second. Rich. Second. Uh, so now we just need
36. 37:52>> Yes. Council member Hadan, >> I believe I need to abstain because I wasn't on the council when all these bills were paid. And just to respect the city members, this was your I don't know what these are for. >> That's true. Thank you. >> You can have I know what they're for, but I I feel I wasn't >> That's the calendar year I wasn't making any decisions. So I don't >> Theoretically, it's all budgeted. Yeah, just hi. >> Hi Foster. >> Yeah, sorry. >> No, it's fine. It's fine. Yeah. >> Roberts, >> hi >> Belton. >> Hi >> Lola. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Sarah. >> Okay. And I will say with regard to the invoices, so um last week everything was put together, everything was posted. Yeah, the the bill information is all posted
37. 38:55record for us to actually have everything posted to the meeting. >> Um, and I would encourage you because I've had, you know, I've had questions about building um >> Oh, no. I don't have any questions. >> No, no, no, it's okay. No, what I'm saying is because I've done this myself. Um, when I'm looking at something, yes, I can say, "Oh, yes. Um, WB Mason, that was for supplies." Well, right. And then supplies. Exactly. So, just be aware that the actual invoices are always available for review so that in the days prior to the meeting, you can go to the clerk's office and you can say, "I'd like to see the rise and run permaculture invoice >> and it's a and it's worth doing." >> I am familiar with the majority of the the names on that list. I know from your >> because I just since I hadn't taken my oath until January 3rd and this all this work happened in November, December, I just >> ethically I just want to >> No, that's I I I think that's fine. I just I'm saying to the council as a
38. 39:58whole um do not be afraid or shy about going to the clerk's office and saying I would like to look at the invoice for X >> because that's part of our job here is to monitor and be sure of how city money is being spent. So just be aware that it's all there and you can always look at it. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So now I'm going to see if there is any public comment before we go to >> Ronald. >> Yeah. >> Yes. We're just going into public comment. So Ronald, do you want to uh speak? >> Yes. Thank you. Uh on the question of council, new council for the planning board. I don't necessarily have any objection to the the hiring of new council, but I do sympathize with council members who wanted to know more of the context, for example, the qualifications of the firm which is now being hired to represent the planning board. Uh it's not the responsibility of the council to post information about actions by the mayor's office online.
39. 41:02Just generally, I would like to see more information on the city website about the appointments that the new administration is making uh particularly in the case of the legal team. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh there any other hand? Is there anyone in the room with public comment? >> Okay. Um do we have any new business from the council? >> I I do actually have something I want to bring up. I have a constituent who reached out to me last year regarding the audio quality in this room. >> Perfect perfect example. I have a constituent from the second ward who reached out that they were not able to find any space in the chambers during a packed um session and they complained that the the online audio quality is very lacking. And I had promised them that this year I will personally look into getting better audio quality. So um is it your preference that we do an ad
40. 42:08hoc committee or is it a you know how it's honestly now that we have an ADA coordinator I think it falls under the purview of their office that's something that they could look into. I could help them. Uh the constituent also offered to help them. I could forward the letter to everyone. I think it is worth noting that >> yeah, I think it's an important thing. There's enough technology out there. I think it serves our constituents and the job that we're doing to have better audio. We're sometimes on off, you know, online and it's difficult to, you know, make out the discussion and I think it's just something that we should look into. >> Maybe an audio itself too. Yeah, they can't hear back. >> Just hearing back. >> Yeah, like for for um for stenographer, is that the right whoever's taking the notes? Um it's easier for them if there's a better audio quality if they're have to review it. I think
41. 43:10there's a a lot of benefit to investing in that. Um >> yeah, >> but you want to >> I can do an ad hoc committee. Do you >> I don't necessarily want to do an ad hoc committee. I don't think it needs to be an ad hoc committee, especially if you have an ADA coordinator or somebody that's filling that role. >> I think >> I I will I just wanted to make it um aware, but if anybody else wants to do another committee, I >> I don't think it needs it needs a committee. >> I don't think so. >> I think we just better. >> Yeah. Yeah. we can just have, you know, >> well, also on on on our website, we have an accommodation um you know, for two weeks if anyone needs an accommodation, like if that person needs an accommodation to sit in the front row during a meeting, then she can contact us and we can reserve a spot for her. >> I I feel like >> I'm just saying that's Yeah, I appreciate that for the for the intern until we can figure out the logistics of the sound. I also suggested the same but the sound quality is very lacking. It's
42. 44:13I think >> oh I listen the room and everything that I think it's a good point for somebody who is attending but there are people who attend I want to attend remotely and I have I know myself that is very very difficult to hear what's going on. No, the acoustics of the room is not convenient for any kind of uh transferring of of sound because of the walls and everything and you know our sound bounces plus we're using you know the technology of different you know ideally we should be somehow miked somewhere. >> Yeah. um you know and it can be inexpensive to get wireless mics and you know you know especially um during meetings that are big right we can set up a speaker you know somewhere I mean there is a sound reinforcement that we can do but at least in the ins there is an accommodation we could provide until we can figure out the sound situation >> right >> uh I do want to bring up I understand that we now have responses I think from everybody because I got um correctly. So
43. 45:18um I am gathering this right into the committees. Um I should have by this evening um the full grid of your uh selections. I'll be reaching out to you oneonone over the next few days. I just need to log everything and see that possible everybody gets further choice. Uh so once we get those committees identified um the committees will elect their own chair and you will need to work together to identify when you are going to meet. If you have overlapping membership it may make sense to um uh to sorry >> well that's our ADA coordinator. it may make sense to do back to back and so that that will be up to the committees to go forward but I should have that information in the next day or so and I'll be reaching out to everybody as I said at the beginning we've now gotten reports for this month which ordinarily we go to informal so in your first meeting with the department you will be
44. 46:21looking at the reports that were submitted and reviewing and discussing anything I know you can't hear this but I can cuz it's in my hearing No, but I think that's our ADA coordinator. That's who I see on the screen. Maybe they want to >> No, no, this No, you just not uh so I will be reaching out to you and in your first committee meetings then please review the reports that we received, meet with your department and um by February we'll be up and running. >> So the chair meets with the department heads to set up the agenda. Um no the the committee is going to meet and then on a monthly basis the department heads will report to the committee. So instead of police department for example and fire department coming in here to an informal committee will meet with the uh safety committee and they will do their presentation both of their reports and any issues that are going on to that committee and the committees will be establishing their agenda for the year what they want to work on not not some of which will not necessarily be in the
45. 47:24workforce. So you may want to talk about um crosswalk safety. >> You may want to bring up the ebike safety, >> things like that in the safety committee, which would not necessarily be part of a report from the police department unless there was we would hear about um but yeah, that's that's how that will work. The department will report to the committees. Any other questions on that? >> Yeah, we're going to have a um meeting. So, we're going to have an agenda or not just >> Well, that's going to be up to the the committee chairs will set their agendas and um you know, we can I can sit down and review each committee here and review what we want to do. But I think you know, we're trying to put people in committees uh that are priority for them and so I'd like to see the committee shape and what it is they want to work on. Also also a question that public comment that come the meeting right and if they have any complaint or anything so they could talk about >> meeting correct because this will all be subject to open meeting law meetings
46. 48:26will be public. >> Okay. >> Any other new business? >> Real quick real quick Margaret. So in the committees though is Logan going to be providing the um >> Oh yeah >> the >> or the Yes. Yeah, our sub committee is up to common. >> Okay, gotcha. Thank you. Yeah, >> it's up to that. We're happy to do it. >> Yeah, first of all, as well as Linda taking minutes. >> Yes. And yes, Linda has uh done committee minutes uh for the last couple of years. So, she will continue to do that. And you know, these are going to be the informal can go on for two or three hours. Mhm. >> Um we're simply breaking it up for it to be more efficient and we may very well have um code and the PW back to back with safety >> uh on the same evening or you may choose to have a committee meeting prior to this meeting. So finance for example has always met before >> one of our meetings. So there are ways to do this so that we are efficient in the use of time.
47. 49:29>> Any other questions comments? I yeah just a point of clarification um now that we're breaking up some of the chunk of time that's dedicated for the informal for the presentation what is the the main order of businesses that are going to be discussed >> the main order is that everything that comes before the formal needs to go to the informal so that everything need can be discussed appropriately and given enough time. So for example, the resolution that we just had, >> yeah, >> if that had come to an informal a week before this meeting, questions have been raised, there would be sufficient time to get information and then we can vote. >> That's fair. And I really want to try and keep to ensuring that what we are going to vote on in the formal meeting is presented at the informal and appropriately discussed so that we are making informed decisions when we come in. >> And I mean that's I think that's kind of how larger municipalities where there's so many business you you reserve the
48. 50:31formal just for the voting. There's almost no commentary >> but then you should have right. Yeah. Okay. Any other comments or questions? >> We have questions if I may. If we're concerned and Jason, can you have a copy and I gave you a copy and I think it does concern the common council and and I would have waited for maybe but there might be some urgency. So that's why I'm what? So, well, it's the library and everybody kind of knows my feelings with the library and I've been pursuing, you know, going to their meetings and my particular concern is that they're not following the open meeting law and they're not recording accurately in their minutes public comments about their financial, you know, status in in that they have in excess of
49. 51:34$118,000 this in personnel and my particular reason is I mean after I said probably everyone knows I've been looking for them to modify their policy and I'm kind of like you know going to their meetings and and uh not getting good results in terms of my wishes that they 9:00 so but they're not in their own minutes >> what putting more. Well, Chase, and I'm only mentioning this if if the council could look at this. >> It's not it's not uh I wouldn't check, but I do not believe that it's in our pocket. >> Well, I think it's a judiciary responsibility seeing as it's $400,000 that goes to this body and I would I mean, we're short $400,000 and that's what the taxes are going up to make up. So I would hope and expect that a board that is receiving public
50. 52:39funds would adhere to the open meeting laws and time reflect it's been if you if you actually look at what happened was kind of dare I say gross in terms of their treatment and uncalled for and not in abiding with the you know good spirit So I'm just saying thanks for raising your concern. >> The judiciary responsibility of this account that's where the only reason I would mention it to this account. >> Okay. Thank you for that comment. Um any other public comments? Okay. Do we have a motion to adjourn? We have done it. We have a second and we have uh all in favor. >> Any oppos? This would make

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