City of Hudson, New York · Common Council

Common Council, Informal Meeting Draft

Monday, July 20, 2026

Length
1:37:01
Sections
14
Meeting type
Informal Meeting
Governing body
Common Council

At a glance

Hudson's Common Council held its July 20 informal meeting, picking up right after a closed attorney-client session on library and planning assessment issues. Despite the informal label, the Council took several roll-call votes, including funding for the new code enforcement officer and a contested legal-fees budget amendment that public pushback trimmed down to $40,000. Mill Street residents dominated public comment: one said a settlement conference they organized in March drew no response at all from the city, and Council President Margaret Morris admitted the Council itself hadn't been briefed on the litigation's status either, until that came up, at which point an unreviewed contract amendment surfaced. Later, resident Jack Hornickel argued a Mill Street contract extension had been signed "in secret" and backed a new resolution asserting the Council's authority over city real-property contracts. Morris also reported that Empire State Development pulled $400,000 in stabilization grants tied to the Dunn Warehouse sale to a brewery buyer, with no resolution expected before August, while a resident separately criticized the original buyer-selection process for being conducted behind closed doors.

What happens next

Dates mentioned during the meeting. Confirm against the city's official calendar.

  • Next weekRegular Council meeting expected to vote on the Common Council real-property authority resolution, the two local laws laid on desks tonight, and a resolution establishing a Charter Revision Commission.
  • Next weekJack Hornickel said he will bring draft resolutions addressing the Mill Street contract extension.
  • Jul 31Deadline to submit the city's Local Waterfront Revitalization Program (LWRP) grant application to New York State.
  • Aug 4National Night Out at the waterfront.
  • AugEarliest expected update on Dunn Warehouse sale financing, after Empire State Development pulled a $400,000 stabilization grant; Council President Morris said an update might not come until September.
0100:00:51

Attorney-Client Session Recap

The Council came back into open session after a closed attorney-client meeting on two property assessment matters, one involving the library and one involving planning.

Key points

  • The closed session covered two assessment issues, one for the library and one for planning.
  • The Council then moved directly into committee reports.
0200:01:39

Infrastructure Committee Report

The Infrastructure Committee reported on a stricter wastewater discharge permit, major excavation coming with the Columbia Street sewer project, and pricing out center-line street striping.

Key points

  • The city's wastewater discharge permit is up for renewal with stricter limits on chlorine residual leaving the treatment plant, which will require new treatment equipment and engineering help.
  • A dam in the Churchtown area needs an engineering evaluation; the transcript did not make clear which dam.
  • The Columbia Street sewer-separation project, expected to begin this fall, will require a very deep excavation, a manhole roughly 20 feet down, near an intersection on Columbia Street, and will disrupt sidewalks and connect to homes along the route.
  • The committee priced center-line striping for streets carrying more than 6,000 vehicles a day at roughly $4,000 to $4,200 a year; the current striping budget line is about $7,000, and DPW spent just under $6,000 on striping in 2025.
  • The committee wants to work with the Finance Committee or the Board of Estimate and Apportionment to make annual striping funding more routine.
Who spokeJason Foster · 3rd Ward Councilmember, Infrastructure Committee
Note

The exact intersection for the deep excavation and the name of the dam needing evaluation were unclear in the auto-generated transcript.

0300:05:28

Safety Committee Report

The Safety Committee reported a quiet month for the fire department, an outdated city code covering e-bikes and e-scooters, and code enforcement matters involving chickens and illegal signage.

Key points

  • It was a quiet month for the fire department aside from a bomb threat at the hospital around Flag Day or Pride Day (the speaker was unsure which); a new fire truck is expected by the end of July.
  • The committee said city code covering e-bikes, e-scooters, and other electric mobility devices is outdated and leaves the city open to potential litigation if there is ever an incident.
  • A bicycle safety and awareness event was held, with no report yet on how it went.
  • Code enforcement discussion touched on chickens and on illegal signage posted on utility poles and streetlamps, which the committee noted is against code and counts as littering.
0400:08:00

Services Committee Report

The senior center still has no commissioner. Council Member Jennifer Belton described outreach work she has done on senior programming, and the youth department's summer camp got underway July 5.

Key points

  • The senior center remains without a commissioner; the mayor (rendered in the transcript as both "Mayor Ferris" and "Mayor Harris," almost certainly Mayor Joe Ferris) may have a candidate as of last Friday.
  • Jennifer Belton said she visited the senior center in person, called the county, and found little information available online about its programming.
  • Belton compiled a list of current activities and delivered a resident survey on transportation and desired programming, distributed at a local senior housing site, with plans to share a digital copy through the mayor's office and with other senior communities in the city.
  • Summer camp started the week of July 5 with more than 120 children signed up; the first couple of days were cancelled because of weather.
Who spokeJennifer Belton · 4th Ward Councilmember
Note

The transcript renders the mayor's name inconsistently, as both "Ferris" and "Harris," in different places. Other Hudson Council meetings and this week's digest consistently identify the mayor as Joe Ferris, so that spelling is used here.

0500:10:54

Code Enforcement Officer Funding Resolution

The Council took a roll-call vote on a resolution, first passed last month, that funds the city's new full-time code enforcement officer position now that the mayor's office has filled in the dollar figures that had been left blank.

Key points

  • The resolution follows up on the retirement of the prior code enforcement officer and the hiring of a full-time replacement.
  • The version passed last month lacked funding figures; the only change this time was the mayor's office filling in those dollar amounts.
  • The resolution passed by roll-call vote with no recorded opposition.
Note

The transcript does not clearly state the specific dollar amount ultimately filled in, so no figure is given here.

0600:12:39

Legal Fees Budget Amendment: A Contentious Debate

The Council debated and eventually approved, at a reduced amount, a budget amendment to cover the city's legal fees for the rest of 2026 after the $80,000 originally budgeted for the year ran out; public comment pushed for an independent audit of legal spending.

Key points

  • Council President Margaret Morris said the $80,000 budgeted for city legal costs in 2026 has been depleted, with estimates still owed to the planning board attorney, zoning board attorney, historic preservation counsel, and labor attorney for the rest of the year.
  • The transcript's dollar figures for the size of the amendment itself were inconsistent, at different points referencing $13,500, $103,000, and a resulting total near $183,500; the exact figures should be checked against the official resolution.
  • Morris read off a monthly invoice breakdown that was much clearer: $133 for historic preservation work, $175 for the zoning board of appeals, $90 for a public records (FOIL) request, $1,687 for Mill Street litigation, $630 for waterfront-related litigation, and $897 for zoning board and planning board professional services.
  • City Treasurer Heather Campbell said the estimates came from the mayor's office and clerk's office polling the various attorneys, not from her own analysis, and that she did not see much choice given ongoing litigation.
  • Multiple Mill Street residents spoke against the amendment, saying they are effectively paying twice: their own legal fees, and the taxes that fund the city's side of the same litigation.
  • A resident asked for an independent, outside audit of legal bills and a public breakdown of spending by matter rather than by law firm, noting the city is approaching a $20 million budget for the first time in its history and comparing it to neighboring towns of similar size.
  • After discussion, the Council amended the resolution down to $40,000 and passed it by roll-call vote, with one member recorded opposed to the amended figure. A separate, second budget amendment adding $5,400 specifically for planning board attorney fees was introduced afterward and also passed, along with a routine roll-call vote to pay the month's bills.
Who spokeMargaret Morris · Council PresidentHeather Campbell · City Treasurer
A note on the transcript

The dollar amounts discussed for the size of this budget amendment were inconsistent and at times contradictory in the transcript. Rather than assert one precise figure, this summary reports the range of numbers as they were said and notes that the amendment ultimately passed at $40,000. The itemized invoice figures Morris read aloud, by contrast, were specific and are reported as stated.

What's next

The amendment passed at $40,000. Several council members said they want a category-by-category breakdown of legal spending, routine planning board work versus litigation versus assessments, going forward.

0700:25:20

Mill Street: A Settlement Offer Goes Unanswered

During the same legal-fees discussion, a Mill Street resident said they organized a settlement conference in March that got no response from the city; Council President Morris then acknowledged the Council itself hadn't been briefed on the litigation either, until that came up.

Key points

  • A Mill Street resident, not clearly named in the transcript, said they helped organize a settlement conference in March aimed at limiting everyone's exposure to further litigation, and that the city gave no response at all: not yes, no, maybe, or a counteroffer.
  • The resident said their understanding is that the mayor controls litigation strategy, and that from their perspective there is no visible strategy.
  • Council President Morris responded that the Council itself had not been briefed on the status of the litigation either, until the resident raised the issue at a prior meeting. Only then, on looking into it, did Morris discover that a contract amendment had in fact been signed that she had not seen before.
  • A separate Mill Street resident spoke earlier in the same discussion, saying they too had taken part in March settlement talks that went nowhere, and that residents are effectively paying legal costs twice, their own attorney and the taxes funding the city's side.
  • Council members acknowledged they had not been told the mayor's litigation strategy, with one saying, "possibly because there isn't one."
Who spokeMargaret Morris · Council President
Note

The transcript does not clearly identify the Mill Street resident by name, so none is used here.

0800:52:09

Routine Resolutions and Grant Applications

The Council worked through a long list of routine resolutions: an appointment, a newspaper designation, an internal DPW funds transfer, a senior center donation, and grant applications carrying city matching funds.

Key points

  • A resolution appoints a commissioner of deeds, and another designates the Register-Star as the city's official newspaper through April 2027.
  • A roughly $62,000 internal transfer moves funds within the water fund, a financially self-contained system, to cover a purification-related item; it is not a budget amendment and has no city-wide budget impact.
  • The city accepted a $530 donation to the senior center.
  • A resolution seeks a Climate Smart Communities Implementation Grant from the state, $160,000 total including a $32,000 city match, for sidewalk and streetscape work near the public square, tied to a later phase of the Friends of Public Square streetscape project; the vote is expected at the next meeting.
  • August 4 was set as this year's National Night Out.
  • A resolution authorizes accepting donations to the library and youth department; the transcript did not give specific dollar amounts.
  • A separate resolution seeks state funding, referred to in the transcript only as a "W1" application, tied to the city's ongoing sewer separation project. DPW Superintendent Rob Perry described the odds of receiving it as uncertain but worth pursuing.
Note

The exact name of the state funding program referenced as a "W1" application was unclear in the transcript.

0900:55:13

Waterfront Grant: Finishing an Unfinished 2011 Plan

Planner Norabel Greenberger of LaBella Associates explained a $200,000 grant application to finally complete and formally register the city's Local Waterfront Revitalization Program (LWRP), which was adopted locally in 2011 but never submitted to the state.

Key points

  • Without state designation, Hudson cannot access LWRP implementation funding, which Greenberger said can be substantial, citing an example of a community that received over $1 million for a visitor center.
  • The grant would fund a full update of the 2011 plan given how much has changed in the city since then, and would carry the process through final state registration this time.
  • Council members pressed on financial risk, noting the city has paid matching funds before on plans that ended up sitting unused; the city would still need a competitive request-for-proposal (RFP) process to select a consultant if the grant is awarded.
  • A council member noted the city's zoning code is currently incoherent in places tied to litigation over the waterfront, and said a completed, state-registered LWRP would give the city a clearer set of standards to point to.
  • The application must be submitted with a Council resolution of support by July 31, 2026; the resolution was described as the last required piece.
Who spokeNorabel Greenberger · Planner, LaBella AssociatesMargaret Morris · Council President
Note

The transcript stated the required match both as "a 15% match" and, separately, as "$13,000," which are not consistent with each other on a $200,000 request. The exact match amount should be checked against the resolution.

What's next

The grant application, and the Council resolution supporting it, is due to the state by July 31, 2026.

1001:02:47

Common Council Asserts Authority Over Property Sales

Council President Morris introduced a resolution declaring the Council's charter authority over the sale, lease, or franchise of city real property, prompted by discovering that a contract extension had been signed without coming back to the Council for review.

Key points

  • The resolution cites charter section 41.1 (no sale, lease, or franchise of city property without Council authorization) and chapter 12.7 (the Council's general authority to manage city affairs and protect residents' property).
  • Morris said the May 2023 version of a contract, signed by then-Mayor Johnson, differed procedurally from the version the Council approved in January 2023, though no major substantive differences were found on review; procedure calls for such revisions to come back to the Council, and this one did not.
  • Separately, Morris said a later amendment extending that contract's closing date was a substantive change that also never came back to the Council for a vote.
  • One member raised an unresolved question, not settled on the record, about whether part of the proceeds under the amended contract might go to the school district rather than the city.
  • A member asked that the resolution be referred to the legal committee, noting several city departments could be affected; Morris said the resolution simply restates existing authority and does not change any process.
  • The resolution is scheduled for a vote next week.
Who spokeMargaret Morris · Council President
What's next

A vote on the resolution is expected next week.

1101:09:01

Public Comment: Jack Hornickel on the Mill Street Contract Extension

Resident Jack Hornickel, introducing himself as being from Mill Street, told the Council the contract extension was signed "in secret" and argued the Council has clear legal authority to review it.

Key points

  • Hornickel said he first brought the issue of the contract's expiration to the Council last month, it then went to the mayor, and the Council and public found out publicly that the extension had been signed without being filed, shared, or reviewed by anyone.
  • He said he supports the resolution asserting the Council's authority, calling it well grounded in the city charter and city code.
  • He cited a court case he referred to as "Hayes v. City of Yonkers" as additional support for the Council's authority to review the contract.
  • He argued the resolution as written leaves an open question, whether the specific Mill Street extension itself was a valid exercise of that authority, and asked the Council to address that extension directly rather than leave it ambiguous.
  • He said he would bring draft resolutions on the issue to the Council's agenda next week.
Who spokeJack Hornickel · Mill Street resident, public comment
Note

The court case name was rendered in the transcript as "Hayes v. City of Yoners." "Hayes v. City of Yonkers" is the most legible reading, but this could not be independently confirmed and should be checked.

What's next

Jack Hornickel said he will bring draft resolutions addressing the contract extension to next week's agenda.

1201:15:24

Charter Provisions and Public Comment on Accountability

A council member joining online, identified as Ronald, cited a charter provision requiring a supermajority for land sales and leases; other callers weighed in on constitutional government and executive accountability more broadly.

Key points

  • Ronald cited charter section C12-13, which he said requires a supermajority of nine votes for land use leases or sales, and a "super quorum" of nine members present for the Council to even consider such matters.
  • A council member suggested the pending real-property resolution should explicitly include that supermajority requirement.
  • One caller gave an extended comment on the U.S. Constitution and separation of powers in general terms, urging the Council to defend its legislative prerogatives against the executive branch; the remarks were not tied to a specific city resolution.
  • Another commenter, describing past experience as a treasurer for an organization, said that if a member of their organization had authorized funds outside the normal process, they would have been held personally responsible, and asked whether the city has any similar check on the mayor's office.
Who spokeRonald · Council Member (joining online)
1301:19:07

Local Laws and New Business

Two local laws were physically laid on desks ahead of a future vote, a resolution would let the Council receive local laws by email, and the Council previewed a Charter Revision Commission, a Soup Club lease oversight gap, and a senior-donation question.

Key points

  • A budget-transfer local law, last updated about 20 years ago, would raise the threshold for a department to move funds between budget lines from $500 to $2,000, and let the Treasurer, with Board of Estimate approval, approve transfers up to $5,000 without a Council vote; anything above that would still need Council approval.
  • A procurement local law would remove hard-coded dollar thresholds from city code and instead simply track New York State's procurement law, so future state changes would not require separate local amendments.
  • A resolution would let the Council receive local laws in final form by email PDF at least 10 calendar days before passage, instead of requiring physical paper copies laid on desks seven days ahead; adopting email delivery requires unanimous Council consent, and one member said he still wants paper copies, which the Council agreed to keep providing on request.
  • The finance committee's proposed fee-schedule update was deferred for further council review, including a fix removing a nonexistent fireworks-permit fee (handled instead as a fire department donation) and a request for clearer per-session pricing on youth department swim lessons.
  • Council President Morris said public feedback on establishing a Charter Revision Commission has come in from a number of community members; she plans to bring a resolution and roster of proposed members next week, envisioning a two-year term aimed at having a revised charter ready for the fall 2027 ballot, and kept current afterward rather than revisited only rarely.
  • A council member raised the city's Soup Club business lease, one of the city's only active such contracts, noting required financial reports had been going to the mayor's office instead of the Council; the two offices have now arranged for the Council President to be copied going forward.
  • A resident asked where money donated to senior activities, including a roughly $8,000 donation mentioned earlier in the meeting, is being spent, since some gifts may carry restrictions on their use; council members said they would look into it. A resident also asked about the pending Article 78 lawsuit tied to the waterfront dock, and a council member confirmed multiple entities are part of that litigation without going into further detail.
Who spokeMargaret Morris · Council President
What's next

The two local laws are expected up for a vote next week. The Charter Revision Commission resolution is expected next week as well.

1401:30:16

Dunn Warehouse: State Pulls $400,000 Grant, Process Questioned

Council President Morris reported that New York State, referred to in the transcript only as "the state" and understood to be Empire State Development, rescinded $400,000 in stabilization grants tied to the Dunn Warehouse sale to a brewery buyer. A council member and a resident separately raised questions about the process that selected the buyer.

Key points

  • Morris had expected a contract for review this evening and a vote next week, but learned last week that the state had rescinded $400,000 in grants for stabilizing the building.
  • Months earlier, Morris had raised three issues with the buyer's representative, rendered in the transcript as "the Bury": how the grant money fit into the contract, defining the undefined term "stabilization" in a penalty clause, and adding language making the sale contingent on the building's use as a brewery. Hudson's June 15, 2026 Council meeting identified the buyer as Hudson Brewery.
  • Morris said the brewery is now looking into alternate financing, and does not anticipate an update before the August Council meeting, possibly not until September.
  • No contract has been signed yet; the buyer's attorney and the city attorney are still working on it, and Morris said there is no fixed deadline forcing a resolution.
  • Council Member Ronald, joining online, noted that of three original proposals received through the city's request-for-proposal (RFP) process, only one was definitively rejected; the runner-up proposal, while not selected, was not, in his words, "utterly rejected." Morris responded that some committee members felt that proposal was incompatible with keeping the waterfront available for public recreational use.
  • A public commenter, not clearly identified, criticized how the review and selection process was run, saying that unlike the original committee set up under a previous mayor, rendered in the transcript as "Mayor Recctor," the committee that made this selection met behind closed doors, kept no minutes as far as the commenter knew, and had an unclear membership. Morris agreed the process was not conducted openly.
Who spokeMargaret Morris · Council PresidentRonald · Council Member (joining online)
A note on names and terms

The transcript refers to the funding source only as "the state"; this is understood to be Empire State Development (ESD). The buyer's representative is rendered in the transcript as "the Bury" or "Pete Burray," likely referring to the brewery buyer's representative. The previous mayor credited with setting up the original review committee is rendered as "Mayor Recctor," which could not be confirmed.

What's next

No update on Dunn Warehouse financing is expected before the August Council meeting, and possibly not until September.

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