At a glance
Hudson's Conservation Advisory Council ran through a full slate of updates at its July meeting. The street tree planting is funded, with locations picked and a nursery lined up, and the EV charger vendor's quote came in within the $75,000 grant. Members want a real sit-down with the city's legal side to revive the tree ordinance, and the chair meets with the mayor this Friday to talk rain gardens, recycling, green infrastructure, and an open space idea. A Planning Board member flagged a public hearing on the Housing Authority project on July 21 and floated counting the Mill Street site toward New York's 30x30 conservation target if it stays undeveloped. The next meeting is August 4, which the chair plans to run virtually.
Opening: June Minutes and Sidewalk Standards Follow-Up
The council accepted June's minutes and picked up its sidewalk standards research, thanking Linda for sharing another city's streetscape standard and reviewing what Earth Law had already sent.
Key points
- June's minutes were accepted by voice agreement.
- Linda was thanked for sending a link to a city streetscape standards document (the captions render the city name as 'Newberg'), which members thought could be a model for Hudson's own sidewalk thinking.
- A member reported emailing the Earth Law contacts, who pointed back to material in their initial report: general guidelines for new construction and information on what Kingston is doing on the same topic.
- Members debated next steps for the sidewalk work: a separate meeting, calling the Earth Law people back in, or having someone come present.
- For the tree ordinance, members suggested something like a subcommittee, plus more strategic conversations with the city's legal side.
This is an auto-captioned transcript with no speaker labels and many dropped words. Throughout this summary, garbled names and figures are described generally rather than quoted as fact.
August Meeting Plans and Membership Loose Ends
With the chair and at least one other member away on August 4, the council agreed the chair will run the next meeting virtually. Several membership formalities are still outstanding.
Key points
- The next meeting is August 4. The chair will not be there in person and another member is also out; a third member, Michael, is having surgery.
- Rather than reschedule or cancel, the group agreed the chair will run the August meeting virtually, something that has worked before.
- The chair still needs to follow up with two departing members whose resignations do not appear to be official yet (the names read unclearly in the captions).
- Andrew has not officially resigned and is 'still kind of out there.' Members want to bring him back at least briefly to hand off his street tree planting information.
Climate Smart Certification Watch and the Street Tree Planting
The council is waiting to hear whether its Climate Smart Communities application earned enough points, and it now has to actually plant the street trees it has funding for.
Key points
- The council should find out soon whether it got the points from its Climate Smart Communities application; the chair called it a good sign that the program asked for the city's logo and address for whatever certification it is putting together.
- Members expect to hear about bronze level certification.
- The street tree planting is funded and has to happen. Andrew has the list from this spring, roughly a dozen trees by the chair's recollection, with locations chosen and a nursery already vetted.
- The chair will reconnect with Andrew for about an hour to download the details and steps, will email everyone about it for August, and noted each location has to be told when its tree will be planted.
The timing and tree count for the planting are garbled in the captions (the transcript reads 'in the poll' and 'a dozen retrieves'). The count of roughly a dozen is the chair's own hedged estimate.
LED Bulb Exchange and EV Charging Stations
The light bulb exchange continues, and the EV charging project is moving: the vendor's new quote fits within the $75,000 grant, and the city has started receiving grant payments.
Key points
- The LED light bulb exchange is still ongoing; the chair has several boxes of bulbs and more are at the city.
- The EV charger vendor is moving forward and gave a quote this week that is within the $75,000 grant, and members just learned there is extra money available if it runs slightly over.
- The city recently received a grant check described as $18,000, tied to selecting the vendor in April, with more due after completion.
- The vendor reportedly believes he can do the whole installation even before the utility connection comes through, though only the level two chargers are possible, less than the council initially hoped.
- The replacement chargers behind City Hall are stalled: the city has waited about a month and a half for the vendor to send a new invoice without sales tax.
The grant payment breakdown and the installation deadline are badly garbled in the captions (the transcript variously reads 2028 and 2020, and lists payment figures that do not add up). Only the $75,000 grant total and the recent $18,000 check are stated clearly enough to report.
Tree Ordinance: Pushing for a Sit-Down with Legal
Members agreed the stalled tree ordinance needs a direct conversation with the city's legal side to understand its concerns, rather than letting the issue drag on.
Key points
- Members want a solid sit-down with the city's legal side to understand all of its concerns about the draft tree ordinance, and to learn what the friction points are so they can be addressed.
- One member noted the council had already watered the draft down considerably before handing it over, specifically to deliver something they thought would pass easily.
- Ideas floated: reviewing the draft with the Common Council, bouncing sidewalk ideas off DPW, and bringing the legal people back for another meeting, possibly in September, after the CAC talks to its own contacts.
- Nathan, arriving mid-discussion, described the challenge as finding the narrow window between the previous version and what might actually pass, adding that no version will make everyone happy since some people want more and some want less.
The Mayor Wants a Friday Meeting
The mayor asked to meet with the chair this Friday. The chair plans to walk through the CAC's whole agenda, and members added items they want raised.
Key points
- The mayor asked to meet with the chair on Friday, July 10. The chair hopes it is a status update on where the CAC is, joking about being called to the principal's office.
- The mayor was described as interested in green infrastructure, and he wants to talk about rain gardens; the chair also wants to raise recycling.
- The mayor reportedly has updates on the sewer grant, and an energy service item came up as another of his topics (the service's name is garbled in the captions).
- Members asked the chair to also raise the open space idea, and later in the meeting, the 30x30 discussion and mowing reduction work were added to the Friday list.
- Members offered to fill in details if the chair circulates the Friday agenda beforehand.
Tree Grant Check-In: Harry Howard Trees, Gator Bags, Photo Contest
A quick status pass on the tree grant work: Sam is on the Harry Howard trees, the watering bags need attention, the photo contest still has to happen, and the chair owes Sam a piece of county paperwork.
Key points
- Sam is working on the Harry Howard trees, and the council still needs to run its photo contest.
- A member asked whether there is more money for mulch and gator watering bags; the trees now all have gator bags on them, which need to stay on for a few years.
- Members tried to reconstruct whether the original placement agreement said the host site would maintain the trees so the work would not fall on DPW or volunteers; nobody at the table knew the actual stipulations, which predate current members.
- On the county Climate Smart side, the chair owes Sam an official document confirming a past council approval; members confirmed the underlying approval is official.
- Nothing else was reported from the county.
This stretch of the captions is heavily fragmented. Who originally agreed to maintain the Harry Howard trees, and what document the chair owes Sam, are both unclear in the transcript and described only generally here.
Less Mowing: Open Space, a No-Mow Pilot, and the Cemetery
A wide-ranging conversation about shrinking the city's mowing burden: a member has been talking with DPW about sites it would rather not mow, a half-acre two-treatment pilot is teed up, and the cemetery came up as the big prize.
Key points
- A member has been talking with DPW about mowing at the dog park site and across the city; DPW would love to stop mowing one particular site there, and reducing mowing would free up a short-staffed crew for more critical infrastructure work.
- One member put the cemetery's mowing cost alone at several hundred thousand dollars, with weed whacking around the stones described as terrible work; clover was floated for the older sections.
- A pilot is proposed on a just-over-half-acre site that is currently mowed, with two treatments: a no-mow native grass (about 4 to 8 inches tall, with common blue violet running underneath) and a true wildflower meadow with deer-deterrent native flowers.
- The pilot was described as a way to get everyone comfortable before expanding to other sites, pending an approval (the captions suggest HDC). The member asked Frank at DPW for a list of other sites crews dislike mowing, which has not arrived yet.
- The method is low-labor: mow down to about an inch and disperse seeds in November, with seeds being the main cost. A member asked whether grant money exists for this.
- A member offered to write a few sentences on the DPW collaboration for the chair to show the mayor on Friday.
- Members also discussed HK Lee of Eon Woods (spelling per the captions), a Spiral House volunteer who started a nonprofit focused on natural burials and has researched how to maintain natural-burial cemetery grounds; members asked to be connected.
Members tied the mowing work to the Mill Street open space idea raised later in the meeting, and to the chair's Friday agenda with the mayor.
Wrap-Ups: Grant Project Closed, DPW Equipment, Gas Stove Study
A grant-funded planting project is finished and paid out, DPW relations are good even if the city's electric lawn equipment is not, and the gas stove study appears to be going dormant.
Key points
- A grant-funded project (its name is garbled in the captions) is done: the last check has been cashed, with one possible outstanding receipt of about $50 if Sam finds it.
- The council is on good terms with DPW: one member borrows a DPW weed whacker to maintain and water the plantings, and needs to swap out its battery.
- The city reportedly bought about $15,000 worth of electric lawn equipment, but crews find it underpowered for their jobs and the batteries die quickly, so members understood why DPW avoids it.
- On the gas stove study, no one had updates. Members recalled it was introduced as legislation at the state level, that the CAC never wrote a support letter, and that any letter would have to go through the Common Council.
- With no advocacy heard around it lately, members suspected the effort may no longer be alive and suggested it may not need to stay on the agenda.
Street Tree Lists, a Liaison Offer, and a Recycling Push
The council needs to swap a native-only tree list into its Google planting form, heard that a former member has offered to be a liaison from an elected official's office, and mapped out how to get city offices recycling.
Key points
- The council has two street tree lists in circulation and wants residents pointed to a native-only list; the fix is updating the hyperlink on the council's Google tree request form, with the city website to follow later. Members called it not urgent.
- Nora, who used to serve on the CAC and now works in an elected official's office (the official's name is garbled in the captions), bumped into the chair and offered to come liaise with the council; members floated inviting her to a September meeting, possibly as a precursor to a visit from the official.
- On recycling, the thread so far: the mayor could sign something, possibly an executive order, to start recycling in city offices, but to earn Climate Smart points the action needs to be formal, likely signed.
- The chair will raise it at Friday's meeting with the mayor, and the council offered to draft the language.
- Members noted an order alone is not enough, someone has to actually pick the recycling up, and one member warned that city recycling could scramble the blue bag system, since blue bags mean trash in Hudson but recycling most other places.
Members connected the recycling push directly to Climate Smart Communities points: informal recycling would not count, a signed formal action would.
Planning Board Corner: 30x30, Mill Street, Housing Hearing, Sidewalk Code
Speaking in his Planning Board capacity, Nathan and the members worked through whether Mill Street could count toward the state's 30x30 conservation target, flagged the July 21 Housing Authority hearing, and dug into what Hudson's code actually requires of sidewalks.
Key points
- A member described annual state open space conservation grants, believed to open in the winter, and explained the state's 30x30 law: a statewide target to conserve 30 percent of land (and water) by 2030, with no mandate on individual municipalities but the option to voluntarily enter protected spaces.
- The idea: if the Mill Street site does not go into development, it could become protected and count toward the state's target. The project is currently in litigation, so the Planning Board's timeline depends on whether the court finds the board acted properly or kicks the matter back.
- Members debated whether the Common Council would have to enact something before the Planning Board could weigh 30x30 in a future review, since the board can generally only consider what is law; because 30x30 is already state law, it may not need local adoption. Nathan offered to ask and report back.
- Nathan announced a public hearing on the Housing Authority project on the 21st, saying he believed it starts at 6 p.m., and invited the council to comment there; he said he knew of no particular environmental concerns.
- On sidewalks, the council confirmed it is working with Earth Law to integrate nature-based solutions into sidewalk design, aiming for at least guidance and possibly an actual policy added to the city code, which today has basically no requirements beyond ADA, a vegetation height limit, and a ban on noxious plants like poison ivy (a rule members said several spots in the city violate right now).
- Members questioned the sunken tree pit bioswales near the top of Union Street, a demonstration project that someone involved early on reportedly called an unsuccessful design.
- A figure of 4 percent was cited for Hudson's tree canopy, described as well below comparable places, and one member urged the council to focus on stormwater, calling the sewer overflow the city's biggest environmental issue, with the official DPW projects on roughly a 50-year timeline.
- With nothing else raised, the council moved to adjourn at about the 43-minute mark.
Nathan will ask whether the Planning Board can consider the state's 30x30 law without local adoption and report back. The Housing Authority public hearing is July 21; the 6 p.m. start time reads unclearly in the transcript and should be confirmed.
The hearing time is garbled (the captions show both '6 p.m.' and a stray '5'), the tree canopy comparison is fragmentary, and the sewer overflow discussion is heavily clipped. Details here stay close to what is clearly audible.
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